debt and empire and big government, but pocks his nose in this silly argument of dont ask dont tell.

Seems that we have forgotten history. Both the Greeks and Romans allowed homosexual within the military. Seems the generals thought they would fight harder. That’s not necessarily true today, yet these guys and gals can be and probably are just as loyal and patriotic as anyone else.

To me denying them the right to serve is un American. I have not found any reference to homosexuals in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or Amendments. Let ‘em serve.

A military is not a social project, a political payback, a religion, a sexual intercourse of acts. A military is a cohesive unit which has one purpose and that is to kill and destroy. A military serves no other purpose than that.
Anything which interferes with that purpose is as guilty of treason to any nation as a murderer is in taking breath from someone else in suffocating them.

I have noticed the trump cards of “having served in the military” or “Truman integrated the military”, but why is it that never the twain has met?

Let us speak to the US integrated sexual military in it’s reality in 2010 from existential experience.
When President Bush 41 announced the liberation of Kuwait, numerous female soldiers who signed up for the military as a career turned up pregnant, and most overseas were pregnant not by their husbands as their “shooting themselves in the foot”.
For those who served in Truman’s time, historically the white Soldier would note that the “colored” would hang back on missions to allow the white to take the hit.
In Iraq, the female National Guard members have a notorious reputation for being Suzi Rotten Crotches. I know of one female who bedded dozens of men in her company.
I can point to Air Force married females who picked up black male officers in slumming.
The list can continue in examples of drunkenness to doping, but as each of these situations was introduced into the military, it’s units were weakened and it took greater effort for real Soldiers to take up the slack for the people who think that the military is their Obama liberal experiment in gratification.

Where does this all end in Obamanism? I read of listing all people who serve as Patriots when nothing is further from the fact. There are military codes and if any are violated that makes one a sloven wearer of a uniform disgracing it and not a United States Soldier.

Mr. Obama now has the US military not being able to raise it’s rifles at terrorists unless the terrorists raise their weapons first. Surprise searches are not allowed in Afghanistan so as not to upset terrorists.

This is the graduated US military which now serves terrorists sympathies. Now Mr. Obama wishes to usher in homosexual behavior as political payback as he paid back Syria for their assistance in his 2008 election to the White House.

Does America want a military with homosexuals who suffer from aids suicide? Homosexuals who believe joining an armed body will psychologically make them belong to America? Does America want a military where sex is the basis in combat units where one gay group will take care of their own due to affections and a straight group will take care of their own in not being gay?

Has Nidal Hasan in being Muslim first not exposed a problem in placing a minority into a majority situation? It is bogus to ignore the racial problems of the Civil War, the Indian Wars, World War II, Korea, Vietnam and Iraq.

Let us visit the white possibilty of a certain infamous Soldier in Afghanistan whose family could not leave his heroic death to history and kept digging until it was found this unlikeable person was yelling at fellow Soldiers profane things before American bullets found their way into him, in a battle which did not occur and a cover up ensued for Pat Tillman.

Combat units require discipline and a united purpose of military. Whenever anything is allowed in to disrupt that, the US military ends up having wounded and dead Soldiers for liberals to count or not count depending on if Obama is in the White House or not.

No one has asked why Obama is putting forward a plan which will kill gay people as no one has asked why he has made Afghanistan a kill zone for US Soldiers.
Homosexuals demanding to be known by a sex act first, instead of being American first is the first red light in this that this is disruptive and deadly to themselves and all Americans.

The US military must be protected from all outside bias and prejudices or it will fail at it’s mission in protecting Americans who in deluded measure think the US military is some social experiment to promote an agenda.

The place to deal with racial issues is at a Martin King venue, not Korea or Vietnam. The place to have sex is in a marriage and not in combat.

A Soldier is trained to kill, and there is no other purpose.

Reality of purpose must be the deciding issue and the US military must be kept on this purpose or Ahmadinejad in Islam is going to be lopping off the heads of both gays and straights with nuclear knives.

That is the point in all of this.

You look at the list of countries that permit gays to serve openly (U.K, Canada, etc.) and you look at the countries that ban gays (Iran, Cuba, etc.) and then you figure out which side of history you want the USA to be on.

First, thank you for your service to this country. I take the words of a former/currently military members with the utmost respect. Again thank you, both of us have served to give each the right to share our opinions as opposed to say what is going on in Iran, but discussion is for another day.

First I didn’t say poor moral standards, they are differing standards. There is evidence that society is moving towards a time when I feel homosexuals will serve openly in the military. I do think it isn’t the time while we are at war to change a policy that while imperfect does allow all American’s to serve, with rules imposed and putting aside the “DADT” issue there are a lot of regulations under the UCMJ that MUST be followed from the simplest of “no public display of affection” while in uniform, to no fraternization between officer’s and enlisted, the inability for service member’s to be politically active, in some commands you cannot hang glide and the list goes on.

I have known several who have died during the Iraq war and now the Afghanistan war, as a commander’s wife I have to deal with family member’s and friends, I only know one important issue of who they are they are AMERICAN PATRIOTS. All their live’s are worthy of our respect.

I could share with you a couple of personal stories but I do not think you would be interested in them from my background but rest assured I do have them.

Again, thank you for only pointing out the social aspect of the issue and not the meat on the bones aspect that I thought I presented in a fair manner.

I salute all those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for this country.

Again, I offer these thoughts as a former AF chick, the daughter of an Air Force officer who gave the ultimate sacrifice and the proud wife of one of the US Army’s finest FA Officer’s. Ft. Leavenworth, KS.