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		<title>By: Decreasing Defense No Solution for Debt Disaster &#124; The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.</title>
		<link>http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/04/the-christmas-bomber-speaks-finally/comment-page-2/#comment-156885</link>
		<dc:creator>Decreasing Defense No Solution for Debt Disaster &#124; The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 02:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and individual freedom continues as evidenced by those who do not share our values and dreams – the Christmas bomber, the Times Square bomb plot, and just last week the arrest of two more plotters arrested at JFK [...]</description>
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		<title>By: aviationlvr</title>
		<link>http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/04/the-christmas-bomber-speaks-finally/comment-page-1/#comment-15806</link>
		<dc:creator>aviationlvr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this to be a little to CONVENIENT.  As the criticizing of the Obama administration for arresting this man and mirandizing him grew louder and louder, they all the sudden come out with &quot;OH but he&#039;s talking and telling us a lot.&quot;   Way too convenient for comfort...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this to be a little to CONVENIENT.  As the criticizing of the Obama administration for arresting this man and mirandizing him grew louder and louder, they all the sudden come out with &#8220;OH but he&#8217;s talking and telling us a lot.&#8221;   Way too convenient for comfort&#8230;
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		<title>By: Diaper Bomber talks, shoulda talked faster &#171; Political Book Summaries, Reviews and Opinions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diaper Bomber talks, shoulda talked faster &#171; Political Book Summaries, Reviews and Opinions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sulliedsoul</title>
		<link>http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/04/the-christmas-bomber-speaks-finally/comment-page-1/#comment-14716</link>
		<dc:creator>sulliedsoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc thinks that the only virtue we are bound to uphold is the expeditious gathering of intelligence from suspected or attempted terrorists to prevent attacks and achieve security.  He is also of the opinion that there is a difference between &quot;enhanced interrogation techniques&quot; that he advocates and torture which he claims we have never done.

So let me paraphrase him: under the law enforcement method, it took us five weeks to get the guy talking.  With the &quot;enhanced interrogation,&quot; it took between 7 and 15 days to do the same thing.  The difference between the two could be the difference between another September 11 and a thwarted attack.

So if keeping another attack from happening is the only concern in Thiessen&#039;s mind, couldn&#039;t we argue further that, say, amputating a man&#039;s toes and feet would get him talking even sooner?  Maybe only a day or two and he&#039;d spill his guts?  Maybe we could begin pulling his guts literally out of his body and he&#039;d start talking within just a few minutes?  Even better, what if we did the same thing to a member of his family which wouldn&#039;t endanger the subject&#039;s own body and thus give the &quot;interrogator&quot; more leeway to explore new methods of causing pain, discomfort and anguish?  If &quot;enhanced interrogations&quot; are doing a better job at a quicker rate, won&#039;t torture be that much more exponentially effective?  If doing these things would give us the information we need sooner, what is stopping us from doing it?

Perhaps what is stopping us from listening to chickenhawk sadists like Thiessen is our unwillingness to sell our national inheritance of liberty and dignity for a mess of security pottage.  Once you cross any kind of line regarding torment or torture, you strip yourself of the mantle of democracy and you put on the robes of the Grand Inquisitor, our national character forever stained with the barbarism advocated by this man.  Shame on him for trying to drag this country down into the awful abyss he&#039;s carved out for himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc thinks that the only virtue we are bound to uphold is the expeditious gathering of intelligence from suspected or attempted terrorists to prevent attacks and achieve security.  He is also of the opinion that there is a difference between &#8220;enhanced interrogation techniques&#8221; that he advocates and torture which he claims we have never done.</p>
<p>So let me paraphrase him: under the law enforcement method, it took us five weeks to get the guy talking.  With the &#8220;enhanced interrogation,&#8221; it took between 7 and 15 days to do the same thing.  The difference between the two could be the difference between another September 11 and a thwarted attack.</p>
<p>So if keeping another attack from happening is the only concern in Thiessen&#8217;s mind, couldn&#8217;t we argue further that, say, amputating a man&#8217;s toes and feet would get him talking even sooner?  Maybe only a day or two and he&#8217;d spill his guts?  Maybe we could begin pulling his guts literally out of his body and he&#8217;d start talking within just a few minutes?  Even better, what if we did the same thing to a member of his family which wouldn&#8217;t endanger the subject&#8217;s own body and thus give the &#8220;interrogator&#8221; more leeway to explore new methods of causing pain, discomfort and anguish?  If &#8220;enhanced interrogations&#8221; are doing a better job at a quicker rate, won&#8217;t torture be that much more exponentially effective?  If doing these things would give us the information we need sooner, what is stopping us from doing it?</p>
<p>Perhaps what is stopping us from listening to chickenhawk sadists like Thiessen is our unwillingness to sell our national inheritance of liberty and dignity for a mess of security pottage.  Once you cross any kind of line regarding torment or torture, you strip yourself of the mantle of democracy and you put on the robes of the Grand Inquisitor, our national character forever stained with the barbarism advocated by this man.  Shame on him for trying to drag this country down into the awful abyss he&#8217;s carved out for himself.
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		<title>By: Obama Considered—and Rejected—Military Custody for Accused Underpants Bomber &#124; Lux Libertas - Light and Liberty</title>
		<link>http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/04/the-christmas-bomber-speaks-finally/comment-page-1/#comment-14663</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama Considered—and Rejected—Military Custody for Accused Underpants Bomber &#124; Lux Libertas - Light and Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as an enemy combatant (with some particularly avid defenders of Bush administration policies even suggesting that he should have been subjected to &#8220;enhanced interrogation&#8221; methods which the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your own book, you note that Bush officials let Zubaydah spend weeks recovering in the hospital before questioning him. How come you don&#039;t mention that here, where the comparison is rather relevant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your own book, you note that Bush officials let Zubaydah spend weeks recovering in the hospital before questioning him. How come you don&#8217;t mention that here, where the comparison is rather relevant?
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		<title>By: libertyatstake</title>
		<link>http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/04/the-christmas-bomber-speaks-finally/comment-page-1/#comment-13603</link>
		<dc:creator>libertyatstake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That difference in time could mean the difference between a thwarted attack and another 9/11 in our midst. Let’s hope that is not the price America has to pay for the mishandling of Abdulmutallab.&quot;

Hope is all this absurdly incompetent administration leaves us in this situation.  Holder should be fired.  Napolitano should also be fired.  If these unqualified hacks continue in their posts, it calls Obama&#039;s judgement and competence into question.  Something for the opposition supermajority to consider after November.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That difference in time could mean the difference between a thwarted attack and another 9/11 in our midst. Let’s hope that is not the price America has to pay for the mishandling of Abdulmutallab.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hope is all this absurdly incompetent administration leaves us in this situation.  Holder should be fired.  Napolitano should also be fired.  If these unqualified hacks continue in their posts, it calls Obama&#8217;s judgement and competence into question.  Something for the opposition supermajority to consider after November.</p>
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		<title>By: Wonk Room &#187; Torture Advocate Thiessen Refuted By Own Book</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wonk Room &#187; Torture Advocate Thiessen Refuted By Own Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bush administration speechwriter and leading pro-torture advocate Marc Thiessen exclaims &#8220;That anyone can consider five weeks of utter silence from this high-value terrorist as a success is stunning.&#8221;  Abudulmutallab was supposed to be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Was The Intelligence Gained By The Obama Administration &#8220;Actionable or &#8220;Perishable&#8221; &#171; Nice Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Was The Intelligence Gained By The Obama Administration &#8220;Actionable or &#8220;Perishable&#8221; &#171; Nice Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marc Thiessen at The Daily Caller explains why this news does not in any way justify the Obama administration&#8217;s handling of the Christmas bomber. That anyone can consider five weeks of utter silence from this high-value terrorist as a success is stunning. Abudulmutallab was supposed to be vaporized along with Northwest Flight 253. The moment al-Qaida learned that he had survived and was in U.S. government custody, they began taking countermeasures to cover his tracks. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marc Thiessen at The Daily Caller explains why this news does not in any way justify the Obama administration&#8217;s handling of the Christmas bomber. That anyone can consider five weeks of utter silence from this high-value terrorist as a success is stunning. Abudulmutallab was supposed to be vaporized along with Northwest Flight 253. The moment al-Qaida learned that he had survived and was in U.S. government custody, they began taking countermeasures to cover his tracks. [...]
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		<title>By: cl696</title>
		<link>http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/04/the-christmas-bomber-speaks-finally/comment-page-1/#comment-13554</link>
		<dc:creator>cl696</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard on the radio this morning that the Muslim bomber speaking is proof that interrogation is not necessary...now that is some good spin.  No one has yet to rate the value of the information being given and yet this single event some how is enough to validate the lefts position...what ev

Why is it PC to say Christmas bomber...shouldn&#039;t it be Holiday bomber...I prefer Muslim bomber</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard on the radio this morning that the Muslim bomber speaking is proof that interrogation is not necessary&#8230;now that is some good spin.  No one has yet to rate the value of the information being given and yet this single event some how is enough to validate the lefts position&#8230;what ev</p>
<p>Why is it PC to say Christmas bomber&#8230;shouldn&#8217;t it be Holiday bomber&#8230;I prefer Muslim bomber
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		<title>By: banjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>banjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the next terrorist attack occurs -- it is &quot;a certainty&quot; within the next six months, we&#039;re told -- you can expect a robust response from teams in training at the Department of Justice. Lawyers from the ACLU are on 30-minute notice to a accompany prosecutors to the scene in order to set the parameters of interrogation. Observers from the UN and the International Court of Criminal Justice will be on the scene within hours to lend critical expertise. Critical CIA personnel charged with keeping tabs on terrorists will be temporarily released from interrogation by DOJ lawyers concerning incidents in Afghanistan three years ago. Obama&#039;s remarks about &quot;lone terrorists&quot; have already been written incorporating the &quot;Our hearts go out&quot; comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the next terrorist attack occurs &#8212; it is &#8220;a certainty&#8221; within the next six months, we&#8217;re told &#8212; you can expect a robust response from teams in training at the Department of Justice. Lawyers from the ACLU are on 30-minute notice to a accompany prosecutors to the scene in order to set the parameters of interrogation. Observers from the UN and the International Court of Criminal Justice will be on the scene within hours to lend critical expertise. Critical CIA personnel charged with keeping tabs on terrorists will be temporarily released from interrogation by DOJ lawyers concerning incidents in Afghanistan three years ago. Obama&#8217;s remarks about &#8220;lone terrorists&#8221; have already been written incorporating the &#8220;Our hearts go out&#8221; comment.
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