AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

(the mating call of the almost nominated democrat)

And as far as being a coward, I really doubt you’d have the guts to say that to me in person. But I’d give anything to see you try! Talk about hiding behind a keyboard.

So, once again, I reiterate: Sir, you are, were, and continue to be, a giant bag of douche.

And, once again, I bid you good day.

Oh, and one last thing: maybe you should just lighten up, Freud. Or eat me. Either way, no skin off my Ashtabula.

I thought that there may be some brains under that exterior (and I was probably right) but you seem to have a narcissistic personality disorder of some kind that makes talking to you too much of a chore.
You can’t get through a simple post without resorting to rude and hostile behavior and it’s pervasive enough to make me realize that it’s not just a screen personality but actually you.
When you meet people on the street, do you call them douchebags to their faces if they have the temerity to disagree with your opinions?
Or is it just behind the safety of a keyboard that you feel that you’re in your comfort zone?
I think it’s the latter.
And what’s more cowardly than that?

What I meant to say is that you are a tendentious, sanctimonious douchebag. Please forgive me.

And allow me to extend to you my warmest personal secretions.

With that, I bid you good day.

Peace, and don’t be hatin’
Todd

It will make your tears this fall taste so much sweeter.

Try it this way Todd-it’s much more honest:

Reform of health care is a centrist position.
There were plenty of voices on the left that were screaming about the bailout of corporate America and not just about GM.
Go back and look at the debate on retaliating in Afghanistan versus “preemptive invasion” of Iraq following September 11 and tell me what side the left was on.

Your penchant for playing to the crowd and behaving like this is a WWE match instead of an exchange of ideas is unseemly. I don’t engage in these discussions to be proclaimed a “winner” or a “loser” but to understand why there is such an incredible divide in what people perceive as the truth. We ALL bring our prejudices to the table in a discussion and we should all be willing to concede a point now and then. That’s intellectual honesty. If you want to do an end zone celebration every time you think you’ve made a minor gain in a much broader discussion, you should check the scoreboard. You’re still behind despite the misdirection.

“I definitely oversold my premise, but not by very much.”

I agree with everything before the “but”. Or unless by “but not by very much”, you mean “and by a whole sh*tload.”

Let me make sure I understand: you see public disapproval of the takeover of healthcare by the government as a centrist position. You only grudgingly admit that disapproval of the government bailout of GM and with it the left’s union constituency is of the right. And you think the approval of the Afghanistan surge is not a position of the right, but of the center.

So you now back off and slant the views contained in a self-selected poll by a leftist pollster, after putting it forth as conclusive proof that we’re not center-right, but center-left. Astounding rhetorical back-flip, sir.

It’s like that troll that was trying to blame treacher for crushing the SUV’s grill by running into it full-speed with his already broken knee.

You make about as much sense here as you did on Dick Cheney . . . and we know your views on that subject are as wrong as wrong can be (otherwise, he’d be in jail or under indictment now.)

So what we all should ask ourselves, with respect to you, is “what would it take to change your mind?” Sounds like the answer to that is: ‘nothing’.

If you’re determined to see right as center and center as left, then it’s pretty clear that the object of your discourse is not truth, but persuasion. And further discussion with a sophist such as yourself is pointless.

Monkey eats king.

I’d say ask yourself this: “what are Obama’s approval ratings now? What are congress’ approval ratings now?” Then, “Is Obama left or right? Is Congress left or right?” But that assumes you can be truthful with yourself, which may occur when you’re alone with your thoughts, but clearly won’t occur in this forum. I’m sure you’d find some poll that says that Congress’ approval ratings, when adjusted, approach 100%, and that Americans really wish they could make Obama president for life. So, no response necessary.

You know when we’ll know for sure? This november. Good luck. And by that I mean go jump in a lake.

I agree with everything before the “but”. Or unless by “but not by very much”, you mean “and by a whole sh*tload.”

Let me make sure I understand: you see public disapproval of the takeover of healthcare by the government as a centrist position. You only grudgingly admit that disapproval of the government bailout of GM and with it the left’s union constituency is of the right. And you think the approval of the Afghanistan surge is not a position of the right, but of the center.

So you now back off and slant the views contained in a self-selected poll by a leftist pollster, after putting it forth as conclusive proof that we’re not center-right, but center-left. Astounding rhetorical back-flip, sir.

It’s like that troll that was trying to blame treacher for crushing the SUV’s grill by running into it full-speed with his already broken knee.

You make about as much sense here as you did on Dick Cheney . . . and we know your views on that subject are as wrong as wrong can be (otherwise, he’d be in jail or under indictment now.)

So what we all should ask ourselves, with respect to you, is “what would it take to change your mind?” Sounds like the answer to that is: ‘nothing’.

If you’re determined to see right as center and center as left, then it’s pretty clear that the object of your discourse is not truth, but persuasion. And further discussion with a sophist such as yourself is pointless.

Monkey eats king.

I’d say ask yourself this: “what are Obama’s approval ratings now? What are congress’ approval ratings now?” Then, “Is Obama left or right? Is Congress left or right?” But that assumes you can be truthful with yourself, which may occur when you’re alone with your thoughts, but clearly won’t occur in this forum. I’m sure you’d find some poll that says that Congress’ approval ratings, when adjusted, approach 100%, and that Americans really wish they could make Obama president for life. So, no response necessary.

You know when we’ll know for sure? This november. Good luck. And by that I mean go jump in a lake.

Misplaced the reply again!

Sorry for the long delay in getting back to you. I’m in the northeast and lost power and cable for the last day and a half.

This is what I’m seeing:

Afghanistan- public center
Bank tax public left
Bernanke public center
Bush tax cuts public left
Campaign finance public left
cap and trade public left
cash for clunkers public left
Credit card protection public left
DC voting rights public left
Fair Pay public left
Financial regulations- public -left
Gays/military- public -left
GM bailout- public right
Hate crime- public-left
Health care public center
jobs bill public left
mortgage relief public left
Paygo- public center
Schip – public left
Sotomayor- public left
Stimulus public center
Tarp public center
Terror trials public right
Torture memos public right

With Afghanistan, the left has been calling for more focus in the area since day one. That’s why I said center
On Tarp, the objections have been on both sides. I could have included GM, but I’ll give you that. Center.
On Health Care, I’m still going to say center. Both the public and the left want substantial changes to the system, but not this POS bill. The right wants nothing changed .
On security issues like gitmo and torture, the public is still in a reactionary frame of mind.

I definitely oversold my premise, but not by very much. I was reading the polls from right opposition perspective instead of the public mood side.

One fact should leap out at you if you step back and look at results as a whole.
The myth that Obama is a Marxist revolutionary leading us to a communist totalitarian state is totally exploded.

The overview presents a portrait of a man who is still unsure of his position and proceeds cautiously with an eye on the polls.

Sorry for the long delay in getting back to you. I’m in the northeast and lost power and cable for the last day and a half.

This is what I’m seeing:

Afghanistan- public center
Bank tax public left
Bernanke public center
Bush tax cuts public left
Campaign finance public left
cap and trade public left
cash for clunkers public left
Credit card protection public left
DC voting rights public left
Fair Pay public left
Financial regulations- public -left
Gays/military- public -left
GM bailout- public right
Hate crime- public-left
Health care public center
jobs bill public left
mortgage relief public left
Paygo- public center
Schip – public left
Sotomayor- public left
Stimulus public center
Tarp public center
Terror trials public right
Torture memos public right

With Afghanistan, the left has been calling for more focus in the area since day one. That’s why I said center
On Tarp, the objections have been on both sides. I could have included GM, but I’ll give you that. Center.
On Health Care, I’m still going to say center. Both the public and the left want substantial changes to the system, but not this POS bill. The right wants nothing changed .
On security issues like gitmo and torture, the public is still in a reactionary frame of mind.

I definitely oversold my premise, but not by very much. I was reading the polls from right opposition perspective instead of the public mood side.

One fact should leap out at you if you step back and look at results as a whole.
The myth that Obama is a Marxist revolutionary leading us to a communist totalitarian state is totally exploded.

The overview presents a portrait of a man who is still unsure of his position and proceeds cautiously with an eye on the polls.