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Stop attacking pro-life, Stupak

It was deeply disappointing to read Congressman Bart Stupak’s op-ed, “Why I wrote the ‘Stupak Amendment’ and voted for health-care reform,” which appeared in the Washington Post on March 27. It was disappointing because it contained an attack on the integrity of pro-life organizations, like mine, that fought to keep abortion out of health care reform, and because it mischaracterized the bill and the executive order that President Obama signed.

I have no desire to attack Rep. Stupak personally. No one knows what promises or representations were made to him in the 11th-hour whipping of House members for the vote. We also do not know precisely what his choices and limitations were, real or perceived, or the exact number of votes that were still in play. However, we do know that the final vote in the House on the health care reform bill was 219-212. Thus, on the face of it, since 216 votes were needed for passage, it appears that if Stupak and even three other pro-life democrats had withheld their votes, the bill would not have passed. Would that have been a good outcome? You bet it would—not because, as Stupak argued, pro-life Americans oppose comprehensive health care reform (many do not), but because the bill marked a massive expansion of abortion (as I will explain below).

Now, Congressman Stupak may disagree with that assessment, and he may honestly believe President Obama’s executive order was the best deal for pro-life Americans. However, for him to suggest, as he did in his op-ed, that pro-life opposition to the deal that he struck is “disingenuous at best”—and that the deal he reached is somehow significantly “pro-life”—is simply untrue.

First, as noted, it is not the case that pro-life organizations that criticized the deal he made were really against the health care bill and used pro-life concerns to defeat it. My organization, Americans United for Life, studiously avoided taking a position on the merits of the bill as such; our opposition, as evidenced by our pubic statements, was always to the bill’s anti-life provisions. I am certain this is true for many, if not all, other pro-life groups.

Second, the executive order is simply a bad deal. It does not effectively extend the principles of the Hyde Amendment to the new law.

In his op-ed, Rep. Stupak criticized pro-life groups that embraced President Bush’s executive order restricting embryonic stem cell research while later criticizing President Obama’s executive order. But, this is comparing apples and oranges. While some pro-life groups did, contrary to what Stupak asserts, criticize President Bush’s executive order for not being rigorous enough, it was issued by a pro-life president, while the health care executive order was issued by a pro-abortion president (one, it must be remembered, who promised Planned Parenthood that abortion was the “heart and soul” of health care reform). This distinction matters because for an executive order to have binding legal effect, it must be implemented by regulations and those regulations must be enforced. With this executive order, we are left depending upon a pro-abortion president and pro-abortion Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius.

  • grayzel

    So “babies” are not “REAL people”, what are they? DOGS? The “Whole forest” view you claim to hold fails. Your analogy has a fatal flaw. If a forest does not have more acorns or saplings the forest will eventually die out. No new trees to make the “Whole forest” healthy. This health care scam (insurance reform) has the same problem as your analogy. For that matter all government social programs have that same problem. Less and less acorns and saplings to support the old growth trees.

    • elyriaohio

      No one is stopping anyone from having more fetuses, babies, acorns or puppies. Your victim claim holds no water, no matter what analogy you read from your script.

      • grayzel

        Again you change the debate topic. You never answer questions or defend your position only dance around like a puppet on a string swerving away from logic and ducking facts. Ropadope might have worked in the boxing ring but in debate it wins no points.

        • elyriaohio

          I’m only responding to your delusions. Happy Easter.

  • libertyatstake

    Stupak has chosen sides in Liberty vs. Tyranny USA 2010. He is on the losing side. Elryriaohio’s side.

    http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
    [For a light hearted take on our present peril]

    • elyriaohio

      You may need a bigger flag to wrap yourself in, and carry a big torch to match your drama.

      • libertyatstake

        Interesting (in a weird way) how you spend your Easter Sunday. Looking forward to smacking you around on this board going forward.

        http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
        [For a light hearted take on our present peril]

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  • leoretired

    Personally I dont give a flying crap about abortion. You see I am a male, so I dont have to worry about growing another living being inside me. what I do object to is simple; I do not want MY tax dollars spent for murdering a unborn human life. Simple isnt it.
    All you males need to get your noses out of a females business. It is a choice to be pregnant, it just didnt happen all by its self, it takes two and because of this it comes down to personal responsibility. Dont want a child…dont get pregnant, this is not rocket science.
    Remember one thing above all else, personal responsiblity.
    Now for all the folks that are going to yell “what about rape” less than .02% of aborted children are aborted under ligimate rape concerns. But I have to say Adoption is a very good alternative to DEATH!
    As far as Stupak goes he is a liar and like all the other politicians he would sell his own mother to get what he wants. Oh and an executive order can be withdrawn by any president current or future.

  • elyriaohio

    So, you would still throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bath-water on a Bill that would reform healthcare for living people over your paranoid support for future fetuses. If you’re lucky, Stupak will still support your cause in the future. But with your myopic demands, I doubt it.

    • grayzel

      It is extremely difficult to respond to any one that is as emotional and lacking in logic as you are. So I will not even attempt it but to ask you if you have ever looked at a (fetus) your word? If a fetus is brought to full term what is it? And I would ask just who is myopic if you can not even admit what you call a fetus is a baby and a future human being? I know why you can not call it a baby do you?

      • elyriaohio

        There is nothing in this bill attacking your “babies”, only help for REAL people, your friends, family and neighbors. Even a staunch supporter against a woman’s right to choose like Stupak realizes this. My view is of the whole forest, not just one tree.

        • grayzel

          Like most people who argue from emotion and not logic you changed the subject and did not answer one of my questions. So be it. See post at 10:22 am.