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		<title>By: Buehler Education &#187; More Schooling Is Not the Solution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buehler Education &#187; More Schooling Is Not the Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for our children. Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan has gone even further, making a case for 12-hour school days and year round schooling.  The average school year in America is about 180 days long, shorter than the school years of most [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Parents, Mark Your Calendars: September 14th Is Obama Day At School! &#124; Cato @ Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parents, Mark Your Calendars: September 14th Is Obama Day At School! &#124; Cato @ Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] time. As U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan has often opined, American students probably need to spend significantly more time learning, not less. Yet his boss has apparently decided that every year he is going to take a little [...]</description>
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		<title>By: We Should Keep Kids in School. Longer. ‹ Achieve Learning and Resource Center</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 05:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] our education secretary lobbied for longer school days. When I think of longer school days the first thing that comes to mind is “nothing good ever [...]</description>
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		<title>By: We Should Keep Kids in School. Longer. &#8211; Poverty Insights</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Should Keep Kids in School. Longer. &#8211; Poverty Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 03:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] our education secretary lobbied for longer school days. When I think of longer school days the first thing that comes to mind is “nothing good ever [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Parents, Mark Your Calendars: September 14th Is Obama Day At School! &#124; YourDaddy&#39;s Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parents, Mark Your Calendars: September 14th Is Obama Day At School! &#124; YourDaddy&#39;s Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan has often opined, American students probably need to spend significantly more time learning, not less. Yet his boss has apparently decided that every year he is going to take a little [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Parents, Mark Your Calendars: September 14th Is Obama Day At School! &#171; Finance Law Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parents, Mark Your Calendars: September 14th Is Obama Day At School! &#171; Finance Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: janet2</title>
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		<dc:creator>janet2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading this everyone. I know it&#039;s long. Let me preface my remarks by telling you that I homeschool my kids, my oldest is 14 and has never been in school. My decision was based on my experiences in what was deemed one of the top school districts in my home state. I was a good student,well adjusted and fit in with my peers. There was so much wrong though, that I decided I would not put my children through such utter nonsense. My academic education was great, but there were other, huge problems (for one, the school would not admit to a very bad gang/drug problem). 
   My homeschooling circle refers to public schools as &#039;government indoctrination centers&#039; as a joke. This article worries me and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a joke anymore. This is insane - this is taking the role of the parent and replacing it with government. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Are the words &#039;sieg heil&#039; echoing in your mind? 
 When the public school system started giving out free food, they started to replace parental responsibility. There are now parents who have gone through the public school system since they were very young and do not know HOW to be parents. They don&#039;t realize that they are the role models that shape their children. Instead, they are leaving that job to teachers and classroom peers, because that was how THEY were raised!  This has fostered  a &quot;Lord of the Flies&quot; mentality among so much of our youth. I see it all the time in my neighborhood. Watch the behavior of many children. It is disturbing and disheartening.
  Teenagers in the past have been a great resource to our country. They are young, smart, creative and very capable human beings who have much to offer. Instead they are automatically treated like criminals, no matter how good they are and they &#039;live down&#039; to that expectation. (Admiral Ferragut commanded his first ship when he was 12, and yet  Abby Sunderland and her parents are whipped publicly for perceived &#039;neglect&#039; for her attempt to sail around the world at age 16.) What about the pioneers? If it hadn&#039;t been for the help of the children/teenagers, we never would have flourished when we went west! (I&#039;m not advocating keeping your kids home to chop wood - just pointing out that our youth should be valued, not marginalized, and childhood is not  a condition to be &#039;waited out&#039; - they are willing and able to be members of the community even in their youth!)
  What will happen if even more parental responsibility is slowly eroded by the public education system and the government? How badly damaged will THOSE kids end up? 
  Please watch &quot;The War on Kids&quot; - an Indie Film about how  the kids in our country are being treated. Read anything by John Taylor Gatto about how children were once taken out of homes at gun point to start the government&#039;s &#039;experiment&#039; with public school in the 1800&#039;s. 
  There was a time when parents fought for the rights of their children, for the right to remain a family, now children are being handed over with no questions asked! We&#039;ve already been brainwashed.
  Do you know that when you hand your child over to the school, the school acts in locus parentis? That means THE SCHOOL IS THE PARENT! They don&#039;t have to call you or notify you about anything they are doing (as in the case of a girl that was strip searched because the principal was told she had ibuprofen on her). Your child&#039;s constitutional rights are suspended when they walk through that door - as upheld by the Supreme Court.
  Do you know that in many schools (no, probably not yours...)children are given &#039;treats&#039; for snitching on their peers?
Do you not find a uniformed police officer, an &#039;officer liason&#039;, in each school a little disturbing? What about the trend of calling the police to handle bad behavior? Ok, you might say &quot;high school boys can be pretty big and tough and a teacher can&#039;t possibly handle that!&quot; True, but folks, they are arresting 7 year olds! (Just google it.)
  Do you know that homeschoolers have been named as subversives in the Patriot Act? I wonder why? Could it be that we are very clear on our rights as American citizens and the government finds that threatening? You might want to look up that list and see if anything that YOU are involved in is named as being subversive. It&#039;s a maddening list.You are a subversive if you carry around a pocket edition of the Constitution. My husband is a lawyer and has one. Hmm, to quote Shakespeare, &quot;The first thing we do - let&#039;s kill all the lawyers.&quot; (As tempting as that sounds, it refers to how anarchy was going to be created - only the lawyers were going to prevent  the descent into chaos.)
  Do we really want yet more government influence over our children? Not me, no way, no how!
Please visit parentsrights.org to find out more information about the UN resolution &quot;The Right of the Child&quot;. It may surprise you; please read it carefully if you are interested. I am not affiliated with any of the sites, movies or books I mentioned. I am just a very, very concerned parent and citizen wondering where this is all going. ( Yeah, I know you probably just assumed I&#039;m a Tea Party person, or a dyed in the wool Republican, a hippie,  or some conspiracy theorist, but I&#039;m not any of those! Just a free thinking person who doesn&#039;t want to be nailed down by some &#039;label&#039; and  I vote across the spectrum for who I think is best at that moment, regardless of their &quot;party&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading this everyone. I know it&#8217;s long. Let me preface my remarks by telling you that I homeschool my kids, my oldest is 14 and has never been in school. My decision was based on my experiences in what was deemed one of the top school districts in my home state. I was a good student,well adjusted and fit in with my peers. There was so much wrong though, that I decided I would not put my children through such utter nonsense. My academic education was great, but there were other, huge problems (for one, the school would not admit to a very bad gang/drug problem).<br />
   My homeschooling circle refers to public schools as &#8216;government indoctrination centers&#8217; as a joke. This article worries me and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a joke anymore. This is insane &#8211; this is taking the role of the parent and replacing it with government. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Are the words &#8216;sieg heil&#8217; echoing in your mind?<br />
 When the public school system started giving out free food, they started to replace parental responsibility. There are now parents who have gone through the public school system since they were very young and do not know HOW to be parents. They don&#8217;t realize that they are the role models that shape their children. Instead, they are leaving that job to teachers and classroom peers, because that was how THEY were raised!  This has fostered  a &#8220;Lord of the Flies&#8221; mentality among so much of our youth. I see it all the time in my neighborhood. Watch the behavior of many children. It is disturbing and disheartening.<br />
  Teenagers in the past have been a great resource to our country. They are young, smart, creative and very capable human beings who have much to offer. Instead they are automatically treated like criminals, no matter how good they are and they &#8216;live down&#8217; to that expectation. (Admiral Ferragut commanded his first ship when he was 12, and yet  Abby Sunderland and her parents are whipped publicly for perceived &#8216;neglect&#8217; for her attempt to sail around the world at age 16.) What about the pioneers? If it hadn&#8217;t been for the help of the children/teenagers, we never would have flourished when we went west! (I&#8217;m not advocating keeping your kids home to chop wood &#8211; just pointing out that our youth should be valued, not marginalized, and childhood is not  a condition to be &#8216;waited out&#8217; &#8211; they are willing and able to be members of the community even in their youth!)<br />
  What will happen if even more parental responsibility is slowly eroded by the public education system and the government? How badly damaged will THOSE kids end up?<br />
  Please watch &#8220;The War on Kids&#8221; &#8211; an Indie Film about how  the kids in our country are being treated. Read anything by John Taylor Gatto about how children were once taken out of homes at gun point to start the government&#8217;s &#8216;experiment&#8217; with public school in the 1800&#8242;s.<br />
  There was a time when parents fought for the rights of their children, for the right to remain a family, now children are being handed over with no questions asked! We&#8217;ve already been brainwashed.<br />
  Do you know that when you hand your child over to the school, the school acts in locus parentis? That means THE SCHOOL IS THE PARENT! They don&#8217;t have to call you or notify you about anything they are doing (as in the case of a girl that was strip searched because the principal was told she had ibuprofen on her). Your child&#8217;s constitutional rights are suspended when they walk through that door &#8211; as upheld by the Supreme Court.<br />
  Do you know that in many schools (no, probably not yours&#8230;)children are given &#8216;treats&#8217; for snitching on their peers?<br />
Do you not find a uniformed police officer, an &#8216;officer liason&#8217;, in each school a little disturbing? What about the trend of calling the police to handle bad behavior? Ok, you might say &#8220;high school boys can be pretty big and tough and a teacher can&#8217;t possibly handle that!&#8221; True, but folks, they are arresting 7 year olds! (Just google it.)<br />
  Do you know that homeschoolers have been named as subversives in the Patriot Act? I wonder why? Could it be that we are very clear on our rights as American citizens and the government finds that threatening? You might want to look up that list and see if anything that YOU are involved in is named as being subversive. It&#8217;s a maddening list.You are a subversive if you carry around a pocket edition of the Constitution. My husband is a lawyer and has one. Hmm, to quote Shakespeare, &#8220;The first thing we do &#8211; let&#8217;s kill all the lawyers.&#8221; (As tempting as that sounds, it refers to how anarchy was going to be created &#8211; only the lawyers were going to prevent  the descent into chaos.)<br />
  Do we really want yet more government influence over our children? Not me, no way, no how!<br />
Please visit parentsrights.org to find out more information about the UN resolution &#8220;The Right of the Child&#8221;. It may surprise you; please read it carefully if you are interested. I am not affiliated with any of the sites, movies or books I mentioned. I am just a very, very concerned parent and citizen wondering where this is all going. ( Yeah, I know you probably just assumed I&#8217;m a Tea Party person, or a dyed in the wool Republican, a hippie,  or some conspiracy theorist, but I&#8217;m not any of those! Just a free thinking person who doesn&#8217;t want to be nailed down by some &#8216;label&#8217; and  I vote across the spectrum for who I think is best at that moment, regardless of their &#8220;party&#8221;.)
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		<title>By: Kurt T. Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt T. Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plumlipstick, I read the article somewhat differently than you did, though I hasten to add that from this article alone, I may be misreading it.

Specifically, I didn&#039;t take the longer school hours and seven days a week necessarily to mean any one student would be there that many hours or days. Instead, I took it ti mean better access for the community at large. After all, schools sit empty and unused a fair portion of the time, which has always struck me as rather wasteful.

Consider the example of colleges and universities. I&#039;ve taught as early as 7:00 A.M. and as late as 10:00 P.M. Perhaps administrative offices could be open fewer hours than the rest of the schools, true. Maybe greater flexibility could be introduced into class scheduling, which might help some families in which the parent(s) work unusual hours. Further, maybe class sizes could be kept down a bit.

I&#039;m not a parent myself, but over the years I&#039;ve long fretted about the lack, at all levels, of way too many parents, particularly when their children are growing up., not taking an active role in their kids&#039; education. I&#039;m not criticizing anyone; a lot of parents may simply not have the time to be going to many school functions. But if schools can get them to take a more direct interest in their children&#039;s education, including at home, surely it would help. I&#039;m from Texas but have lived in first China then Thailand for many years, and in Asia generally, parents do tend to be more involved than some American parents (which is not to say education in this part of the world is perfect -- it&#039;s not, not by a long shot).

In other words, I&#039;m getting a sense of expanding the role of schools into areas of community outreach and service. Maybe they could offer for-pay training classes for adults, too, but cheaper than college/university tuition and fees.

I realize no one solution will be suitable for every school and community. Therefore, I like the idea of leaving decisions at the local level while striving to improve and standardize (to a degree) education. And young people need to be urged to tackle the hard subjects, too, including, perhaps especially, in the sciences, engineering, technology, etc. -- and I&#039;m an English teacher saying that. Of course, I&#039;d like the students to get a broad-based education up through a bachelor&#039;s degree.

Anyway, that&#039;s mjy take and I hope I&#039;m not misreading. If you&#039;re right, then certainly any student would be greatly overburdened beyond all reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plumlipstick, I read the article somewhat differently than you did, though I hasten to add that from this article alone, I may be misreading it.</p>
<p>Specifically, I didn&#8217;t take the longer school hours and seven days a week necessarily to mean any one student would be there that many hours or days. Instead, I took it ti mean better access for the community at large. After all, schools sit empty and unused a fair portion of the time, which has always struck me as rather wasteful.</p>
<p>Consider the example of colleges and universities. I&#8217;ve taught as early as 7:00 A.M. and as late as 10:00 P.M. Perhaps administrative offices could be open fewer hours than the rest of the schools, true. Maybe greater flexibility could be introduced into class scheduling, which might help some families in which the parent(s) work unusual hours. Further, maybe class sizes could be kept down a bit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a parent myself, but over the years I&#8217;ve long fretted about the lack, at all levels, of way too many parents, particularly when their children are growing up., not taking an active role in their kids&#8217; education. I&#8217;m not criticizing anyone; a lot of parents may simply not have the time to be going to many school functions. But if schools can get them to take a more direct interest in their children&#8217;s education, including at home, surely it would help. I&#8217;m from Texas but have lived in first China then Thailand for many years, and in Asia generally, parents do tend to be more involved than some American parents (which is not to say education in this part of the world is perfect &#8212; it&#8217;s not, not by a long shot).</p>
<p>In other words, I&#8217;m getting a sense of expanding the role of schools into areas of community outreach and service. Maybe they could offer for-pay training classes for adults, too, but cheaper than college/university tuition and fees.</p>
<p>I realize no one solution will be suitable for every school and community. Therefore, I like the idea of leaving decisions at the local level while striving to improve and standardize (to a degree) education. And young people need to be urged to tackle the hard subjects, too, including, perhaps especially, in the sciences, engineering, technology, etc. &#8212; and I&#8217;m an English teacher saying that. Of course, I&#8217;d like the students to get a broad-based education up through a bachelor&#8217;s degree.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s mjy take and I hope I&#8217;m not misreading. If you&#8217;re right, then certainly any student would be greatly overburdened beyond all reason.
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		<title>By: sanddog</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanddog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure the &quot;more time at school than with mom and dad&quot; is by design.  If they could figure out a way to have mandatory government boarding schools with limited and supervised visitation with parents, they&#039;d do it in a heartbeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure the &#8220;more time at school than with mom and dad&#8221; is by design.  If they could figure out a way to have mandatory government boarding schools with limited and supervised visitation with parents, they&#8217;d do it in a heartbeat.
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		<title>By: 1uncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>1uncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of these &#039;born on welfare&#039; kids could use a 12 hour school day to get caught up enough to support themselves when they grow up. Much better to not spend taxes to breed them just to create more demos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of these &#8216;born on welfare&#8217; kids could use a 12 hour school day to get caught up enough to support themselves when they grow up. Much better to not spend taxes to breed them just to create more demos.
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		<title>By: mikesaline</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikesaline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for students going to school longer if the teachers work for the same yearly salary that the overpaid NEA union members are already being given.  We&#039;re getting killed by the Chinese and Indians because those kids study; while our liberal dominated schools worry about tripe and become indoctrinated with left wing pablum.  We&#039;re the calf that is being fattened up for the slaughter given our current mis-education system.  It&#039;s time we get back to basics and reject the failed liberal policies that have destroyed our once great nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for students going to school longer if the teachers work for the same yearly salary that the overpaid NEA union members are already being given.  We&#8217;re getting killed by the Chinese and Indians because those kids study; while our liberal dominated schools worry about tripe and become indoctrinated with left wing pablum.  We&#8217;re the calf that is being fattened up for the slaughter given our current mis-education system.  It&#8217;s time we get back to basics and reject the failed liberal policies that have destroyed our once great nation.
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		<title>By: We Don&#8217;t Need No Education &#124; Geek Soap Box</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Don&#8217;t Need No Education &#124; Geek Soap Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 03:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Education Secretary Calls for 12-Hour School Days, Longer School Year (The Daily Caller) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DefendUrRights</title>
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		<dc:creator>DefendUrRights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see, Arne.  YOU work 12 hour days first - with positive results - for 10 months.  Then we&#039;ll talk about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, Arne.  YOU work 12 hour days first &#8211; with positive results &#8211; for 10 months.  Then we&#8217;ll talk about it.
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		<title>By: Pence Defends Tea Party. &#124; FortPatriot.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pence Defends Tea Party. &#124; FortPatriot.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Education secretary calls for 12-hour school days, longer school year. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: plumlipstick</title>
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		<dc:creator>plumlipstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twelve hours a day, seven days a week. That&#039;s 84 hours per week. That&#039;s the equivalent of two full-time jobs. Since the kids would be in school 12 hours a day on weekends, that means no church, no spending Saturday with mom learning to bake brownies, and no riding bikes with dad on a Sunday afternoon. It also means no going to grandma&#039;s to play and hear her stories about the past, no time spent at a family picnic observing how family members handle a conflict when Uncle Mike knocks over the potato salad. It means no time to work with mom and dad on a homework assignment, letting mom or dad add details from their lives that might help the child understand things better. After being in school for twelve hours, what child will want to sit and read a story together with parents and siblings? 

There won&#039;t be time for Jimmy to get a paper route and learn that his actions control how much money he makes. Becky won&#039;t have time to volunteer at the animal hospital where the seeds of her career as a veterinarian are sown. Teenagers won&#039;t have the experience of looking after a younger sibling sometimes because they and their sibling will be in school. Mark or Marcy may never get to find out from cooking dinner for the family that they&#039;d really like to be a chef or own a hotel.

We don&#039;t need more supereducated people. We don&#039;t need more hours in class. We don&#039;t need more one-size-fits-all education. We do need schools that have various targeted academic paths to focus on the strengths of students to help them be their personal best. We don&#039;t need everyone to be an Einstein. We  do need more people who know how to connect in a community, who can actually cook their own dinner, and who become good parents because they&#039;ve learned how to care for children. Those things have to be caught, not taught by a textbook.

All I have to say here is that I&#039;m so glad my daughter is in a private school and that she has just one year left. Oh, and who says the time of a mom being home for her kids after school is over? I built my career in a way where I&#039;m home for my daughter everyday. There may be less of us moms, but we&#039;re not gone yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twelve hours a day, seven days a week. That&#8217;s 84 hours per week. That&#8217;s the equivalent of two full-time jobs. Since the kids would be in school 12 hours a day on weekends, that means no church, no spending Saturday with mom learning to bake brownies, and no riding bikes with dad on a Sunday afternoon. It also means no going to grandma&#8217;s to play and hear her stories about the past, no time spent at a family picnic observing how family members handle a conflict when Uncle Mike knocks over the potato salad. It means no time to work with mom and dad on a homework assignment, letting mom or dad add details from their lives that might help the child understand things better. After being in school for twelve hours, what child will want to sit and read a story together with parents and siblings? </p>
<p>There won&#8217;t be time for Jimmy to get a paper route and learn that his actions control how much money he makes. Becky won&#8217;t have time to volunteer at the animal hospital where the seeds of her career as a veterinarian are sown. Teenagers won&#8217;t have the experience of looking after a younger sibling sometimes because they and their sibling will be in school. Mark or Marcy may never get to find out from cooking dinner for the family that they&#8217;d really like to be a chef or own a hotel.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need more supereducated people. We don&#8217;t need more hours in class. We don&#8217;t need more one-size-fits-all education. We do need schools that have various targeted academic paths to focus on the strengths of students to help them be their personal best. We don&#8217;t need everyone to be an Einstein. We  do need more people who know how to connect in a community, who can actually cook their own dinner, and who become good parents because they&#8217;ve learned how to care for children. Those things have to be caught, not taught by a textbook.</p>
<p>All I have to say here is that I&#8217;m so glad my daughter is in a private school and that she has just one year left. Oh, and who says the time of a mom being home for her kids after school is over? I built my career in a way where I&#8217;m home for my daughter everyday. There may be less of us moms, but we&#8217;re not gone yet.
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		<title>By: plumlipstick</title>
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		<dc:creator>plumlipstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that you are sincere in wanting to teach students well and teach them to think. I have had many good, dedicated teachers like you. Sadly, I have had some bad ones too, including a teacher who made all Christians in his classroom raise our hands. He told us that we were feeble-minded people and that he was going to pound our naive faith out of us. This was a seventh grade science teacher, and I am the daughter of a pastor. He made my life miserable all year, using me as an object lesson to bash belief in anything unseen.

I also grew up with a man with whom I shared a long friendship, though our political views were opposite in every way. This man got his education degree and focused in history. I knew he had very liberal views, but I thought he&#039;d teach things objectively. Our friendship was severed the night he told me that he was teaching his students to memorize key passages from The Communist Manifesto and lecturing them often on the virtues of registering as a lifelong socialist Democrat. They were required to write and give short speeches about the values of communism and the moral evil of America. As a mother, I was horrified by what he was doing without his students&#039; parents being aware of it. As an American citizen, I was horrified that he would teach our young people that our country is a monster.

These situations have caused me to distrust public schools. I know for a fact that some teachers are kind, objective, and do their best to teach well. However, those who aren&#039;t that way can do untold damage, and there is no way for a parent to monitor what a teacher is saying or doing to her child. The teachers who use their classroom as a pulpit are shielded by the school, their union, and other teachers. No one protects the child or parent, and there is no one to take action on a parent&#039;s behalf if a parent contacts the school.

This is why I opted for a private school for my daughter and will continue to urge parents to avoid public school if at all possible. Until I see schools letting parents back inside, I will do all I can to convince parents that there are better options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that you are sincere in wanting to teach students well and teach them to think. I have had many good, dedicated teachers like you. Sadly, I have had some bad ones too, including a teacher who made all Christians in his classroom raise our hands. He told us that we were feeble-minded people and that he was going to pound our naive faith out of us. This was a seventh grade science teacher, and I am the daughter of a pastor. He made my life miserable all year, using me as an object lesson to bash belief in anything unseen.</p>
<p>I also grew up with a man with whom I shared a long friendship, though our political views were opposite in every way. This man got his education degree and focused in history. I knew he had very liberal views, but I thought he&#8217;d teach things objectively. Our friendship was severed the night he told me that he was teaching his students to memorize key passages from The Communist Manifesto and lecturing them often on the virtues of registering as a lifelong socialist Democrat. They were required to write and give short speeches about the values of communism and the moral evil of America. As a mother, I was horrified by what he was doing without his students&#8217; parents being aware of it. As an American citizen, I was horrified that he would teach our young people that our country is a monster.</p>
<p>These situations have caused me to distrust public schools. I know for a fact that some teachers are kind, objective, and do their best to teach well. However, those who aren&#8217;t that way can do untold damage, and there is no way for a parent to monitor what a teacher is saying or doing to her child. The teachers who use their classroom as a pulpit are shielded by the school, their union, and other teachers. No one protects the child or parent, and there is no one to take action on a parent&#8217;s behalf if a parent contacts the school.</p>
<p>This is why I opted for a private school for my daughter and will continue to urge parents to avoid public school if at all possible. Until I see schools letting parents back inside, I will do all I can to convince parents that there are better options.
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		<title>By: JDoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GROW UP Annie....How many school aged kids are going to go to work? 

from 16 to 18 ?  ONLY two years out of 13 years of school ?

The MAJORITY of school aged are not old enough to legally work ! K-10 graders

are going to get Summer jobs now ? 

Most of the kids have lazy parents who let their kids play video games for

3 months out of the year ! (Oh expect 1 week of Summer camp, of course!)

SEE WHY WE NEED A CHOICE ? Different parents have different ideas how what 

is best for THEIR children ! 

Vouchers....baby VOUCHERS !

Private schools are the BEST....do whatever you can to get your kid OUT of

public school ! Believe me, you&#039;ll be glad you did !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GROW UP Annie&#8230;.How many school aged kids are going to go to work? </p>
<p>from 16 to 18 ?  ONLY two years out of 13 years of school ?</p>
<p>The MAJORITY of school aged are not old enough to legally work ! K-10 graders</p>
<p>are going to get Summer jobs now ? </p>
<p>Most of the kids have lazy parents who let their kids play video games for</p>
<p>3 months out of the year ! (Oh expect 1 week of Summer camp, of course!)</p>
<p>SEE WHY WE NEED A CHOICE ? Different parents have different ideas how what </p>
<p>is best for THEIR children ! </p>
<p>Vouchers&#8230;.baby VOUCHERS !</p>
<p>Private schools are the BEST&#8230;.do whatever you can to get your kid OUT of</p>
<p>public school ! Believe me, you&#8217;ll be glad you did !
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		<title>By: anniebanannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>anniebanannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently you didn&#039;t take advantage of the educational opportunities that you were offered.  

That&#039;s obvious by your lack of spelling abilities and the fact that you think more time in a failing public school is the answer to our kids failing because of public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently you didn&#8217;t take advantage of the educational opportunities that you were offered.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s obvious by your lack of spelling abilities and the fact that you think more time in a failing public school is the answer to our kids failing because of public schools.
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		<title>By: anniebanannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>anniebanannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;who have kids who want to be lazy for THREE months&quot;

How about the kids that want to work for a couple months to earn money for school clothes and ipods?  Not all kids that have three months off are &quot;lazy&quot;.  What a jerk remark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;who have kids who want to be lazy for THREE months&#8221;</p>
<p>How about the kids that want to work for a couple months to earn money for school clothes and ipods?  Not all kids that have three months off are &#8220;lazy&#8221;.  What a jerk remark.
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		<title>By: JDoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I said...VOUCHERS..so parents who have kids who want to be lazy for THREE months can send their kids to a academically slower paced sort of school....

While kids like my son, who LOVES to learn and wanted to go back to school after about 3 weeks, can go to a better school!

Look at it this way, the high achievers can go to the better colleges, etc., and get better jobs....and the lazy kids can mow their lawns and paint their houses when they grow up !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I said&#8230;VOUCHERS..so parents who have kids who want to be lazy for THREE months can send their kids to a academically slower paced sort of school&#8230;.</p>
<p>While kids like my son, who LOVES to learn and wanted to go back to school after about 3 weeks, can go to a better school!</p>
<p>Look at it this way, the high achievers can go to the better colleges, etc., and get better jobs&#8230;.and the lazy kids can mow their lawns and paint their houses when they grow up !
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