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Glenn Beck is “right” on gay rights

Rick Robinson
Author, Writ of Mandamus

The revelation that former GOP chairman Ken Mehlman is gay was as shocking to the Republican inner circle as was the news that Lincoln had been shot. Sorry, tell us something we haven’t known for years.

Nevertheless, this non-event, and the stories that were written about it, come at a key time, a time when many on the right find themselves struggling as much with their own views on gay rights as Mehlman did with coming out.

The issue is being brought to the forefront, not by Mehlman, but by icons of the political right. Recently, invoking the principles of Thomas Jefferson, Glenn Beck shocked Fox listeners by stating that same-sex marriage was not a threat to this country. Ann Coulter drew headlines for accepting an invitation to give the keynote address at a gathering of gay conservatives.

The actions of Beck and Coulter have outraged social conservatives. But their actions, whether viewed as “pro-gay” or simply “live and let live,” are nothing new for many conservatives who, over the years, have stood for individual rights.

Barry Goldwater, who once told a reporter that every Christian should line up and “kick Jerry Falwell’s ass,” supported gays in the military. Goldwater noted that gays had served honorably in the military since the time of Julius Cesar and further quipped: “You don’t have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.”

Shortly after saying that, Goldwater died and presumably waited at the Gates of Heaven for Falwell’s arrival.

Time for the left to embrace Beck

“I’m a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman.”

These were the words of Miss California, Carrie Prejean, at the 2009 Miss USA beauty pageant.

Psych. Just kidding. Those are the words of Barack Obama from the 2008 campaign trail. No one really paid attention to Obama’s quote at the time because his primary opponent, Hillary Clinton, had the exact same position.

Obama got elected and immediately appointed Hillary Clinton as his secretary of state.  At Clinton’s confirmation hearing, there was not a single question about her position on gay rights.

But, Prejean herself was demoted to runner-up at Miss USA and labeled “dumb” by Bill Maher. Go figure.

Between a beauty contestant, on one hand, and a president and his secretary of state on the other, one struggles to determine which set of boobs was more divisive.

  • bigsigh

    I AGREE! If the “religious” voters insist on forming public policy based on their religious beliefs they will continue to be marginalized. Freedom of religion is so important in this country and that means having the right to not have religious beliefs. Don’t they see how the religious beliefs they push on others is just as scary to some as their fear of Islam forcing sharia law on everyone? To a gay person, it feels no different. I think gay activists should also recognize that not everyone wants to hear about what goes on in their bedroom. PDA is unattractive in any form! I personally don’t want to hear what is going on in anyone else’s bedroom ever. This isn’t about whether I agree or disagree with them, it’s about freedom in this country. I’m not even sure why marriage is controlled by the state. I think we should have legal civil unions and leave marriage up to the churches. Every person would then be able to enjoy the legal protections afforded to them by the state and the folks with strong beliefs can choose a church that supports those views. We can let issues of abortion and gay marriage tear our country apart or we can learn to live our lives according to our morals and let others do the same. Religious factions have freedom of speech and can choose to share their beliefs and do their best to change hearts and minds. I do draw the line with tax dollars being used to support issues that are so divisive. Now that’s a fight worth fighting. Nobody should be forced to pay for what they consider other peoples’ sins. I’m sure both sides will jump all over me for this opinion, I just get so tired of listening to the hate coming from both sides.

  • mikeyh0

    A woman has a right to an abortion but I do not want to pay for it. That’s fairly simple. [I am paying, however. Through the money Planned Parenthood receives from the federal government] Men should not lie with men as with women – that’s fairly simple as well. Gay Pride parades – where the participants strip to almost nothing and expose themselves in sexual activity makes me nauseous. If God doesn’t like it, why should I be forced into accepting it? That also is very simple. Live and let live, judge not lest thou be judged, etc. But a little discernment goes a long way in maintaining a civil society.

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  • jg bennet

    Here is Barry Goldwater on the “New Right”

    arry Goldwater “The Godfather of Conservatism” said :

    “I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don’t hurt anyone else in the process.”
    (in a 1994 Washington Post essay)
    “The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others,”
    “I don’t have any respect for the Religious Right.”
    “Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell’s ass.”
    “A woman has a right to an abortion.”

    Goldwater on homosexuality:

    “There has always been homosexuality, ever since man and woman were invented. I guess there were gay apes. So that’s not an issue. The Republican Party should stand for freedom and only freedom. Don’t raise hell about the gays, the Blacks and the Mexicans. Free people have a right to do as they damn well please.” –”The Advocate”, 1993.

    “The big thing is to make this country, along with every other country in the world with a few exceptions, quit discriminating against people just because they’re gay, you don’t have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay. And that’s what brings me into it.”

    Early in his controversial political career he supported tax breaks for private school tuition and a school prayer amendment. But the rise of the intolerant Religious Right caused him to rethink his views, a change that sparked admiration from Americans who disagreed with him on many other things.

    When Sandra Day O’Connor was nominated to the Supreme Court in 1981, some Religious Right leaders suspected she might be too moderate on abortion and other social concerns. Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell told the news media that “every good Christian should be concerned.” Replied Goldwater, “Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell’s ass.”

    That same year Senator Goldwater complained at length that :

    “”There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs.

    There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly.

    The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent.

    If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.

    I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in ‘A,’ ‘B,’ ‘C,’ and ‘D.’ Just who do they think they are?

    And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?

    And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate.

    I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of ‘conservatism.’ ” (1909-1998) US Senator (R-Arizona) Source: Congressional Record, September 16, 1981

    The five-term U.S. senator from Arizona was equally unimpressed with TV preacher Pat Robertson. When Robertson sought the GOP nomination for president in 1988, Goldwater wasn’t about to say amen. “I believe in separation of church and state,” observed Goldwater. “Now, he doesn’t believe that . . . I just don’t think he should be running.”

    A few years later he told The Advocate, “I don’t have any respect for the Religious Right. There is no place in this country for practicing religion in politics. That goes for Falwell, Robertson and all the rest of these political preachers. They are a detriment to the country.”

    While some Americans might find Goldwater’s stand against all interaction between religion and politics too sweeping, many would agree with his strong commitment to individual freedom of conscience on issues as diverse as religion in schools, gay rights or abortion. In 1994 he told The Los Angeles Times, “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means. They think I’ve turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That’s a decision that’s up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right.”

    Goldwater, an Episcopalian, had theological differences with greedy TV preachers. “I look at these religious television shows,” he said, “and they are raising big money on God. One million, three million, five million – they brag about it. I don’t believe in that. It’s not a very religious thing to do.”

    By establishing religion as a basic Republican Party tenet,” he told U.S. News & World Report in 1994, “they could do us in.” In an interview with The Post that same year, Goldwater observed, “When you say ‘radical right’ today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.”

    But most importantly, Goldwater was deeply concerned about the Religious Right’s relentless war on the Constitution and basic American freedoms.

    In a Sept. 15, 1981 senate speech, Goldwater noted that Falwell’s Moral Majority, anti-abortion groups and other Religious Right outfits were sometimes referred to in the press as the “New Right” and the “New Conservatism.” Responded Goldwater,

    “Well, I’ve spent quite a number of years carrying the flag of the ‘Old Conservatism.’ And I can say with conviction that the religious issues of these groups have little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics. The uncompromising position of these groups is a divisive element that could tear apart the very spirit of our representative system, if they gain sufficient strength.”

    Insisted Goldwater, “Being a conservative in America traditionally has meant that one holds a deep, abiding respect for the Constitution. We conservatives believe sincerely in the integrity of the Constitution. We treasure the freedoms that document protects. . .

    “By maintaining the separation of church and state,” he explained, “the United States has avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of the world with religious wars . . .

    Can any of us refute the wisdom of Madison and the other framers? Can anyone look at the carnage in Iran, the bloodshed in Northem Ireland, or the bombs bursting in Lebanon and yet question the dangers of injecting religious issues into the affairs of state?”

    Goldwater concluded with a waming to the American people.

    “The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others,” { he said,} “unless the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public policy. They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their views the only alternatives. . .

    We have succeeded for hundreds of years in keeping the affairs of state separate from the uncompromising idealism of religious groups and we mustn’t stop now” { he insisted}. “To retreat from that separation would violate the principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built this democratic republic.” from CHURCH & STATE July / August 1998

    Senator Goldwater was appalled by many who claimed to be “Conservative” followers of his.

    “In your heart, you know he’s right.”

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