President Donald Trump’s new personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, believes it would be a bad idea for the president to testify under oath before a grand jury regarding special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
“You couldn’t put a lawyer on this show who wants to keep his law license to tell you he (the president) should testify,” Giuliani told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.
“No, people do things, like lie. People lie. Could Comey be lying? You are damn right he could be lying, George. We are going to walk ourselves into a trap like that,” Giuliani told ABC.
Stephanopoulos pressed the president’s lawyer as to why he wouldn’t allow Trump to testify before Mueller if he believes the president is telling the truth.
“Why wouldn’t you say, ‘Go in, talk to Robert Mueller, tell the truth’?” Stephanopoulos asked Giuliani.
“Because I wouldn’t be an attorney if I did that, George. I’d be living in some kind of unreal fantasy world where everyone tells the truth,” Giuliani said. “I’m going to walk him into a prosecution for perjury like Martha Stewart?”
Giuliani would consider allowing the president to testify before a grand jury if he got “the Hillary Clinton treatment,” he said.
“The Hillary Clinton treatment is what I’m looking for. That is no under oath, only a Q&A; we get the questions in advance, and they write the report two weeks before,” Giuliani told ABC.
Stephanopoulos asked whether the president would plead the Fifth Amendment in this case, but Giuliani said he can’t rule out that possibility.
“How could I ever be confident of that,” Giuliani said in regards to whether or not the president would invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
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