Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Bob Woodward said on Sunday that Hillary Clinton’s orders to a top adviser in 2011 to go outside of the government’s classified information system to send her a set of talking points on a “nonsecure” channel shows that she wanted to “subvert the rules” and that she “lives in a bubble.”
Woodward, who is most famous for his work as a Washington Post reporter on the Watergate scandal, was asked about a June 17, 2011 email that appeared in the latest release of Hillary Clinton’s emails which show the then-secretary of state ordering her top foreign policy adviser to turn a set of talking points “into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure.”
The adviser, Jake Sullivan, had intended to send the talking points via secure fax. But the classified system was not working, and Clinton wanted the talking points for an upcoming phone call.
“Here you have the secretary of state, in 2011, saying let’s subvert the rules,” Woodward said during an interview with “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace.
He explained that by ordering Sullivan to turn the talking points into “nonpaper,” Clinton was directing him to strip the document of its markings and subject line entry and to essentially remove it from the government system “so no-one can discover it through the Freedom of Information Act or some sort of subpoena.”
“Here is Hillary Clinton, somebody who worked on the staff of the Nixon impeachment committee,” Woodward continued. “And what was the lesson, one of the lessons from that? Never write anything down.”
“She did years of Whitewater investigations where she was the target. And here, many years later she’s saying ‘oh, let’s subvert the rules,’ and writing it out herself,” he added.
While many observers are arguing that Clinton broke federal law by ordering Sullivan to transmit classified information via nonsecure means, the candidate herself has denied the assertion. She said during an interview on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday that she was never sent the talking points and that her instructions to Sullivan were “common practice” that did not involve classified material.
“Whether that’s some sort of crime, I think is not the issue,” Woodward told Wallace.
“The issue is it shows that she kind of feels immune, that she lives in a bubble and no one’s ever going to find this out,” he continued, adding: “Well, now we have.”