CORRECTION: Spencer said “obviously” to entertaining the prospect of a Hillary victory. He didn’t tell TheDC he supported her.
Prominent white nationalist Richard Spencer used to not be crazy about the Republican Party and wouldn’t mind amnesty for illegal immigrants getting passed. This has all changed thanks to Donald Trump, and he can’t even bear the thought of a Trump impeachment or death.
Spencer spoke to The Daily Caller Monday about his views on Trump.
“Before the election I was just kind of like, ‘stop wasting our time on Republicans, because they are useless, and we need to build up our own movement first.’ But the fact is, when something changes, like I have to change my own way of thinking, you know what I mean? If the world changes, you have to adjust to it,” Spencer said.
He then referenced a debate he participated in at a conference held by American Renaissance, a publication which has been described as white supremacist. In that 2015 debate Spencer argued that politics can’t “solve the race problem.” He described blocking amnesty or limiting immigration as minor changes to America’s demographic shift.
“We are only going to solve that fundamental problem through some dramatic new creative action,” Spencer said.
The white nationalist leader told TheDC that days after the election he worried that “it would be back to business as usual for Republicans, and we would just have wasted a lot of energy, much like every Republican campaign.” He said that maybe if amnesty got passed by Republicans it would be an opening for the alt-right as it would be “effectively over for them as a conservative party and the party of the average white man.”
However, Spencer is now open to fight for stopping amnesty something he described as a “little battle.”
“Trump has been a shattering or cataclysmic candidate because the left hates him in this whole new way, and they’re in a way forcing him to become a nationalist, even though he probably ultimately didn’t want to be that going in, and that’s a fascinating phenomenon, so I have definitely rethought how I look at politics,” he told TheDC.
This all relates to Spencer’s argument in the 2015 debate that a large cultural event would have to occur to “solve the race problem.” He said, “Trump has like promoted a paradigm shift, a psychological paradigm shift.” Along with the rise of Trump and nationalism world-wide, Spencer said there’s “been a rise of a more radical version of the left, a more violent version of the left.”
Due to all this, he said, “I am more open for him to fight little battles because it’s like these little battles become huge battles, they become symbolically huge.”
The white nationalist used the example of Trump’s travel ban to say that from one perspective it’s “very weak and meaningless,” but he supports it now as it is “symbolic of a white man saying no to the rest of the world. And that just drove people crazy.”
“The idea of a white man saying, ‘no, you can’t come here, this is our nation.’ That is something that has not been said for decades,” Spencer said. He described this “paradigm shift” as coming top-down from Trump, so what would happen if Trump died or was impeached?
“That’s a huge question, I mean I don’t even want to talk about it, my stomach churns even talking about subjects like this,” Spencer replied. “I think that there would be a lot of push amongst the conservatives to just go back to where they were because what Donald Trump did, and this is another thing that I did not think was possible earlier, and then Trump proved me wrong, so I’ve changed my mind, is that he engaged in a top down revolution.”
Spencer added, “if he gets impeached and then they just go pass the amnesty, then I’ll be like full on Lenin-esque. You know, go fuck yourself. If what you want to do is destroy yourself, like why should I stop you?”