SiriusXM host Clay Cane couldn’t handle it when author and former TV host Jedediah Bila refused to call President Trump a racist and sexist on his Wednesday show.
Each time Bila — a former conservative co-host of ABC’s “The View” and a former host at Fox News — declined to say what the host wanted her to say, he tried to spoon-feed her the answers he wanted.
But Bila wasn’t interested in being a puppet.
The interview is just plain strange in that host doesn’t seem to want to let his guest have her views. The Mirror counted seven attempts to try to persuade Bila into calling Trump a racist and a sexist.
Attempt 1.
Clay Cane: Do you think Donald Trump is a racist?
Jedediah Bila: Do I think he’s a racist? Um, listen, I don’t think so, but I don’t know what he really feels. Like are you asking me do I think he’s trying to make life harder for people of other races policy wise? No, I don’t think he’s a racist.
Attempt 2.
Clay Cane: No, do you think he’s a racist when you think about The Central Park Five or when he said a Mexican judge could not do his job because he’s Mexican. When you think of shithole countries, I mean, for me it’s crystal clear.
Jedediah Bila: I think Donald Trump’s language and the way that he presents things oftentimes is not good. I don’t, I’ve never had a one-on-one conversation with him. I’m very hesitant to call somebody a racist, a sexist.
Attempt 3.
Clay Cane: Do you think he’s a sexist? You don’t think he’s a sexist? You’re not sure?
Jedediah Bila: No, I don’t feel comfortable calling him a sexist because there’s tons of women that he’s elevated at his companies.
Attempt 4.
Clay Cane: But both can be true. You can elevate women. What about grabbing by the pussy?
Jedediah Bila: Oh, I thought that was a horrible comment.
Attempt 5.
Clay Cane: But you don’ t think he’s a sexist?
Jedediah Bila: Listen, I’m not, I don’t label anybody by those sexist, racist, it’s just not my style.
Attempt 6.
Clay Cane: But kind of like what Maya Angelou said, “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”
Jedediah Bila: Listen, I didn’t vote for him. To be clear, I didn’t vote for him and the reason I didn’t vote for him was because for me, character is important in a president, so I voted for Rand Paul because I had a problem with those comments. I didn’t like that “grab them by the pussy” comment. I didn’t like any of that. I’m not gonna sit here and call him a racist, a sexist. All I can say is that I think the way he handles situations sometimes doesn’t help his cause and it’s not good.
Attempt 7.
Clay Cane: Do you understand why someone like me would feel like when you look at the Birther Movement, that is racism. That is stone cold racism. He said that our first black president was not born in this country. He went on a five year press tour about it. Do you understand why someone like me would think that this or The Central Park Five, he’ll give due process to other folks, but when it comes to five black boys who are wrongfully accused, he put out a full page ad of The New York Times calling for their execution and as recent as 2016, he said they were guilty. Do you understand why someone like me would feel that way?
Jedediah Bila: I understand why people could look at things that Donald Trump says and be deeply offended by them and feel that he is not looking out for their best interests.
Listen to the audio of their exchange here.
This is not the first time that Cane has tried to push a female interviewee into regurgitating his thoughts.
In September, things got really nasty when former White House aide Omarosa Manigalt-Newman went on his show and wound up calling him a “bitch.”
Omarosa was there to discuss her book Unhinged. Cane wanted to know why she stayed in the White House so long if she thought Trump was such a racist.
“You were in that White House with a racist president,” Cane told her. “That’s gutter!”
Omarosa began videotaping the scene on her cellphone. Cane told her she could not post the video.
She replied, “I’m posting it, bitch.”
Cane later responded on Twitter, saying, “In trying to interview Omarosa, she insulted my hair, called me ignorant, gutter and a bitch. She clearly picked up Trump’s habits.”
See a snippet below.
In trying to interview Omarosa, she insulted my hair, called me ignorant, gutter and a bitch. She clearly picked up Trump’s habits… pic.twitter.com/nO5T1iklNM
— Clay (@claycane) September 12, 2018