Meghan McCain and Whoopi Goldberg traded jabs over a previous discussion with the co-founders of the Women’s March during a heated segment on ABC’s “The View.”
The Tuesday segment went sideways when Goldberg challenged a claim McCain made about Women’s March co-founders Tamika Mallory and Bob Bland. McCain said she could prove her point and offered to show Goldberg the tape of a previous show, prompting Goldberg to claim that she had been there and didn’t need to see the tape.
McCain was arguing that conservative women were often left out of movements that purported to be “for women,” saying, “When you’re talking about women’s empowerment, as a conservative woman there’s always a level of skepticism because we’re never invited into circles, traditionally. In the Women’s March, we were literally not invited to join and told to stay home if you were pro-life. It ended up being the leaders of the Women’s March had strong ties to Farrakhan, and a lot of anti-Semitic and in my opinion extremely problematic …”
“Not both of the women,” Goldberg interrupted, “I just wanted to say one of the women had strong ties, not both of them, but go ahead.”
“You can watch the tape of me interviewing them on the show and make your own decision,” McCain pushed back. (RELATED: Women’s March Leader Won’t Personally Condemn Farrakhan’s Anti-Semitism)
“I was there,” Goldberg shot back.
“You were not,” from McCain.
“I was there,” Goldberg repeated.
“No, you weren’t,” McCain said again.
“I was there, yes I was, I sat right there,” Goldberg insisted, saying that she would get the tape to prove it.
The two continued to talk over each other until McCain explained, “I had a problem with the Women’s March. Other people don’t. This is why this topic is ridiculous. Conservative women don’t have voices in places like this, and it’s fine.”
“Okay. Here’s my take for conservative women,” Goldberg added. “If you want to join and put your picture up as well, there’s nothing stopping anybody. This is for all women. If it’s not your thing, then it’s not your thing.”
A quick review of the tapes suggests that Goldberg was correct.
When both Mallory and Bland appeared on “The View” on January 14, 2019, Goldberg was present. And while Bland was very clear about the fact that the Women’s March had denounced both anti-Semitism and statements made by Louis Farrakhan, it was Mallory alone who refused to personally condemn Farrakhan’s comments.
Mallory later accused McCain of racism for pressing her to condemn Farrakhan.
There was, however, another conversation on “The View” about anti-Semitism and the Women’s March. That one took place on March 9, 2018, and Goldberg was not present — but neither were Mallory or Bland.