Raw Journolist emails: Do Tea Party members ‘parallel’ Nazis?

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Editor’s note: Bloomberg reporter Ryan Donmoyer wanted readers to know the context in which he wondered whether tea party members “parallel” Nazis. Below is the full thread in which the quote occurred.

Andrew Golis
Aug 6, 2009, 8:16pm

Fistfights in Tampa at a townhall:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/08/had_to_happen.php?ref=fpblg

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Ryan Donmoyer
Aug 7, 2009, 8:08am

You know, at the risk of violating Godwin’s law, is anyone starting to see parallels here between the teabaggers and their tactics and the rise of the Brownshirts? Esp. Now that it’s getting violent? Reminds me of the Beer Hall fracases of the 1920s.

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Michael Kazin
Aug 7, 2009, 10:16am

Calm down– as someone who shouted down pro-war Johnson administration officials in the 1960s, I see this as pretty routine stuff. Not so long ago, many college administrators didn’t even let “subversive” speakers on campus. Politics ain’t beanbag…

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Rick Perlstein
Aug 7, 2009, 10:59am

I’m always extremely reluctant to deploy the “F” word. But this essay is a good one on which to hang a discussion, I think. Most usefully, it points out that fascism is a variety of coalition politics; and that elements for that coalition are visible on the horizon.

http://ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009083205/fascist-america-are-we-there-yet

  • tbbo2012

    wow. what a bunch of a-holes. again, teabag, teabag, teabag. here’s the most appropriate response to that:
    http://www.zazzle.com/teabag_obama_shirt-235615369796296240

  • ChickFight

    What a bunch of babbling twits. ‘The dark years of Bush’ HA! What a LOAD! If these losers want to see fascists they need only look in the mirror. Incredible – they’re trying to crush dissent, subvert the truth in a blatant partisan collusion – and they’re calling American citizens protesting the massive size and scope of government, fascists. So, by their definition – people who want LESS government are Nazis. Wow.

  • motionview

    You really have to wonder if the people on JournoList personally know any Tea Party member, or if they are just completely blinded by ideology.

    Katha Pollitt yes, but now there are lots of black people in the north, so we can still have all that great music etc

    Hey Katha, what is the etc? Great dancers, athletes? Are you currently in the Klan or were you just in it to get elected your job?

  • grayzel

    Katha Pollitt
    Aug 7, 2009, 12:20pm

    “Fascism was a historical phenomenon. That’s why I don’t like the way the word is used today. Fascists wanted a big all-powerful state that would both reach down into people’s lives at the most intimate level and support the( racially pure) masses economically through jobs, public works, and so on. That doesn’t have much relation to what american rightwingers want. They want a tiny defunded state that would use its diminished power and authority mostly for war, border patrol, prisons, repression of dirty effing hippies etc. but would leave ordinary citizens to sink or swim. Unlike the German or Italian fascists, today’s US rightwingers have nothing concrete to offer people. Just the pleasures of racism and selfishness and fear.”

    Eliminate (racially pure) and you have the Obama regime. The definition of right wing falls apart with this nonsense “repression of dirty effing hippies etc. but would leave ordinary citizens to sink or swim”…and shows the progressive/Marxist/Maoist bigotry with this, “today’s US rightwingers have nothing concrete to offer people. Just the pleasures of racism and selfishness and fear.” Very tolerant people those lefties.

  • chai

    After reading through these emails, the feeling is these guys are so out of touch with what most ordinary Americans have dreaded about Obama’s government/national takeover that it’s appalling. In what crazy universe do these “journalists” live that they could possibly compare orderly Tea Party gatherings to a truly evil Nazi one? Totally, absolutely mind-boggling. One has to conclude that these guys are completely insane. thank you, Tucker Carlson, for putting these out in public. Should be required reading by all Americans.

  • Kerrvillian

    If it weren’t so sad it would be funny. All these prattling twits trying to avoid the obvious fact that fascism was the nationalist twin to internationalist communism. Both are leftist, top-down economies. Fascism and communism, two sides of the same wooden nickel.

    The only questions is which side of that wooden nickel bear’s Obama’s profile on it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Wickman/1481172782 Adam Wickman

      Exactly Kerrvillian- There is no intellectually honest way you can call Tea Partiers fascist because FASCISM REQUIRES BIG GOVERNMENT, and tea partiers want small, limited government. There’s no denying that fact.

      If you really want to get down to it, tea partiers are equal rights activists. The reason is because they believe in small government; and small government means maximum liberty and maximum opportunity for EVERYONE.