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More on that Brian De Palma clip from yesterday

Yesterday I told you about a YouTube clip from Brian De Palma’s Redacted that allegedly was mistaken for real-life footage by a German Muslim named Arid Uka, who then went on to murder two American soldiers while screaming “Allahu Akbar.” YouTube has since taken down the clip, citing their “policy on shocking and disgusting content.” But I believe it’s of historical value, so here it is.

WARNING: This clip really is shocking and disgusting, and not only for the reasons YouTube thinks it is.


If you think Sarah Palin has blood on her hands because of what Jared Loughner did — whether or not he ever actually saw the thing that’s purported to have inspired him to kill — do you think Brian De Palma has blood on his hands for what Arid Uka did? If not, why not?

Thanks again to John Rosenthal at PJM for his work on this.

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  • pmm

    It’s almost like the Internet doesn’t make a distinction between inflammatory propaganda designed for short-term domestic advantage, and inflammatory propaganda designed to radicalize and recruit military aged males into fighting US and Coalition forces. Who knew?

    • pmm

      I just realized my own comment is as clear as the jars of urine under Scorpio’s sink, so let me clarify:

      De Palma’s Redacted (and all the rest of the anti-war agitprop) are intended to influence and polarize domestic audiences. For them to realize that their vile allegations can actually reach and influence foreign audiences, De Palma and company would have to realize that:
      1. The GWOT was not designed just to increase Halliburton’s market share, it is actually in response to real threats from foreign actors and
      2. Foreigners have access to the the same Internet and media platforms that we have here, and that the nuances of “supporting the troops but opposing the mission” might be lost in translation.

  • ghost

    I wonder if DePalma ever decried Gitmo’s mere existence as a recruiting tool for muslim radicals.

  • irwinhandleman

    “Not All White Supremacists Arrested for Trying to Bomb People on MLK Day”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/09/us-usa-crime-parade-idUSTRE7287A020110309

    • Jim Treacher

      Hi, Brian. Glad to see you back, trying to change the subject as usual. Enjoy.

    • ghost

      irwinhandleguy,
      The article you link to mentions the suspect’s possible motive pretty quickly, which kind of undermines your argument–assuming you understand the reason Treacher uses the “Not all Muslims” bit.

      • Jim Treacher

        That’s just it. He doesn’t.

      • irwinhandleman

        are you seriously trying to suggest that when muslims commit acts of terrorism, the motives aren’t mentioned in the news articles about it? because that would just be incorrect. look at jim’s last “not all muslims” post, the motive is right up front in that article.

        i have to change the subject for 2 reasons: 1) because jim will never post about this incident. not because he’s racist at all, but because he thinks all muslims are terrorists and all white guys are better than everyone else.

        and 2) let’s face it, jim, your subjects bore everyone to tears. just say thank you for livening the place up and be done with it.

        • Jim Treacher

          No Muslim terrorist is motivated by Islam, Brian. They’re all just isolated incidents. You’ve said so yourself.

          It’s amusing, though, that you affect boredom. Keep on coming back, son.

          • irwinhandleman

            and no tea partier is motivated by racism, right old man?

            that didn’t seem like a thank you.

          • Jim Treacher

            They all are, Brian. Every single one.

            You’re welcome.

        • ghost

          True. Not all media reports fall into the “Not all journalists jump to conclusion that violent act was a direct result of teabagger rhetoric” or “Not all journalists caution reader against jumping to conclusion that muslim shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ while committing violent act was influenced by Islam” categories.

    • zelda

      Look! Bunnies! Watermelons! Sarah Palin’s uterus!

  • scorpioman

    I believe the posting of this vid is as dangerous as placing a crosshair on a map and your defensive attention to it is more of an admission on your part that the violent connection exists. Why else would you be so defensive?

    I believe your denial that violent printed materials and violent entertainment leads to violent acts is now a huge problem for RatFarkers. Why else are Palin’s ratings in the toilet?

    Yep, Ratfarkers are warmongers. If McCain were president we’d be at war with Libya and possibly Iran right now.

    “Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” John McCain’s Earworm

    • Jim Treacher

      What a delightful little story. And then what happened, dear?

      • scorpioman

        Then you didn’t answer my questions. I never expected you could.

        • Jim Treacher

          Mm-hmm. What then?

        • homebiscuit

          There was a question?

          • Jim Treacher

            Forget it, he’s rolling.

    • zelda

      Posting this video? Not making the movie for distribution in the first place? Because someone had to create it for it to be posted. And the creator was an anti-U.S. Leftist. And Uka stated clearly that it influenced him to kill. Loughner burned a flag and gibbered about grammar. But yeah. Sarah Palin is just as dangerous as DePalma. What about Kos “targeting” Giffords? Just as dangerous?

      • scorpioman

        Yes. All this is dangerous. Or maybe you’ve never read anything I’ve ever had to say on this subject?

        Even Obama is guilty of the vitriol that has infested our country. It’s a direct result of 911. Because whether you want to believe it or not, we’re all victims of hate and we don’t have the skills to deal with the aftermath.

        • zelda

          How do you claim something is dangerous when there is no evidence of it leading to violence? It’s funny that you’re willing to throw Obama under the bus, though.

  • jonavark

    The MAIN reason the rest of the world hates us and thinks we’re disgusting isn’t because they know so much about our culture. It IS because they receive the projections from the dirt in Hollywood that creates the image of America.

    • scorpioman

      And they probably read you. Which would be enough to turn anyone against us.

      • homebiscuit

        You forgot to mention cooties.