MSNBC’s Joy Reid attempted to hold pro-Trump Pastor Mark Burns’ feet to the fire when discussing President Trump’s recent immigration comments, but the host could not hold up to his counter-arguments and eventually cut him off.
Reid and Pastor Burns entered into a fiery exchange on air Saturday morning.
“How can you, as a man of God, justify sending people back to such a country if the country is so broken? How can you justify sending people back to that country?” Reid asked.
“This is not about sending people back to their country,” responded Pastor Burns. He continued as Reid tried unsuccessfully to control the narrative, saying, “We are talking about taking care of America first.”
“Joy, it is not the responsibility of the United States of America to be the United States of the global world. This is the United States of America. You, Joy, I, am American. The President of the United States’ job, his vow and oath, was to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and the citizens of the United States,” Pastor Burns said.
“We are not leaving those people to die,” continued Pastor Burns. “We are sending them aid, we are sending them millions of dollars.”
“We are sending them to, we are sending them to die,” commented Reid.
“Let me ask you a question,” Burns then continued.
“No, no you don’t have to ask me a question because when I am on AM Burns you can ask me whatever you want,” said Reid as she began to get frustrated.
“Do you believe that millions of dollars that we send to Haiti and those other countries, wouldn’t that money do good here in America?” Burns asked anyway.
“Wouldn’t that money do good for other African Americans? Let’s talk about the black mothers, let’s talk about the black fathers, let’s talk about the black single moms in America,” Pastor Burns said.
The conversation continued until Reid got so frustrated that she cut the pastor off the air.
President Trump made recent alleged comments calling Haiti, El Salvador, and other nations “s***hole countries” during immigration talks, and since he made the comment many media outlets and commentators have taken offense to the fact that the president has branded these countries in such terms.
Reid added that sending these people back to their original country, which would happen if Temporary Protected Status (TPS) were to be suspended if immigrants from these countries were no longer in need of disaster or refugee status, would be “sending them back to die,” essentially agreeing with the president’s comments that these countries are destitute.